this is obviously a question for the older generation.
i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.
was the society as strict as it is today?.
Compound complex,
Very serious, deep stuff! BTW, the older brothers and sisters I knew were not kooky but had a deep knowledge of the Bible...
Same here but I think that they were more zealous in the 1950s than when I grew up in the 1970s. I remember having get togethers and conversing with brothers on doctrines. One of whom had an IQ of 170 and had a lot of non-JW literature that would have branded him a borderline apostate.
this is obviously a question for the older generation.
i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.
was the society as strict as it is today?.
Was the society as strict as it is today?
Can't make a comparison because I was physically and mentally out since 1980.
Did you feel proud to be a JW back then?
Yes, but I started having doubts in the late 1970s.
Were the brothers more loving in those days?
Would not know about now but they were pretty decent back then A few of them helped me out when I needed it. It was the elder hatchet man and the Circuit Overseer who were the pricks.
uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.
now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!
But at the end of the day, these white nationalists, they just make a lot of irritating noise.
Irritating noise? Like the man who punched an anti-Trump protestor at a Trump speech who was being escorted out? Like the hundreds of hate crimes carried out by them before any of this. As I've said and continue to repeat, The right-wing started this fight.
uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.
now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!
Freemindfade,
In walks VI and bohm, and all they can do is complain about right wingers, and how awful they are.
As I've said before, it is the right wing media and Republican/conservative/alt-right groups that initiated all this hate-monger. I shouldn't have to define the word "initiated" so I'll use a simpler one. They started it. As I've said before, 30 years of conservative hatemongery on right wing radio and 20 years on right wing television has created this situation.
As I've also said before conservatives are like the bully that punches and punches his victim and then, when his victim punches back the bully shouts: "You see, you see! That is why he deserves to be punched!
uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.
now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!
Freemindfade,
I see... I still think that is insanity
Insanity on both sides or only on the side that you oppose?
There is never going to be a paradise earth where all the people that are mean are magically wiped from the earth.
Irrelevant to the topic. Nothing that I've said has any reference to perfection or paradise.
And still there is no comparison to an AntiFa, you don't like fox and trump and white males, so you will sell your should to defend the likes of these maniacs instead of realizing they are WAY worse.
Worse than White Nationalism and Neo-Nazis? As far as not liking white males I happen to be a white male. As for selling my "should" I believe you're referring to soul.
They are not just jerks, but they are waging a (clearly expressed) war on free speech. You have your political priorities all out of whack dude.
My political priorities, as far as this subject is concerned, includes free speech. In fact I just told, a few posts ago, you that I believe in free speech even for JWs. Why do you keep saying otherwise?
uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.
now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!
Ok, so simply by being assholes then, Fox and its cohorts have inspired violence? That is what you are saying
Yes, although the word "asshole" is too mild a word.
uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.
now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!
So you believe in stopping free speech? Because if someone says something dumb, or mean, someone might kill someone else. Am I getting that right?
wow...
That is false. There is no implication in what I said that free speech should be banned. In fact I'm on record on this site for defending the rights of free speech even for JWs.
uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.
now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!
VI are you implying that Fox News and the talking heads on Fox called for these actions? Do they have a written agenda, and call to shoot liberals?
They don't have to make a call for anything or even have a written agenda. Their hatemongering inspires people to do these things without having to give specific commands.
uc berkeley administrators canceled a scheduled speech by right-wing pundit ann coulter, saying they can’t protect participants from rioting if it goes ahead.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/uc-berkeley-orders-cancellation-of-ann-coulter-11084299.php.
now i am no ann coulter fan (although the sjw police on here will accuse me of being a fan shortly after posting this), but i am a fan of free speech!
I'm talking about Fox News' inspiring murderers of Liberals.
WTF are you on?
The Unitarian church shooter. Jim David Adkisson went to a Unitarian church (Known to be Liberal) with a shotgun and killed two church members before he was subdued by church members. When policemen captured him he told them that he hated liberals and since he could not reach the politicians he decided to shoot some that were within easier reach. When the police officers went to his home they discovered books authored by conservatives like Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity.
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The Las Vega cop killers. A married couple, Jerad and Amanda Miller, went to a pizza restaurant and killed two policemen. They then draped a Gadsden flag over their bodies and pinned a note on one of the policemen which read "This is the beginning of the revolution." They were extreme right wingers who had previously visited the Bundy ranch where law enforcement agents were surrounded by people aiming rifles at them.
The Sikh temple shooter. Wade Page went to their worship services and began shooting the worshippers killing six. Page was also a radical conservative.
Byron Williams. According to his mother, Williams "watched the news on television and was upset by 'the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items.'"
He was, heavily armed and en route to an Acorn office with intent to kill. Fortunately the police pulled him over and captured him after he engaged them with a volley of gunfire. No one was killed. Williams told investigators that "his intention was to start a revolution by traveling to San Francisco and killing people of importance at the Tides Foundation and the ACLU."
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How more examples should I have to give?
i don't think this topic has been discussed before but yesterday i read something to the effect that trump wants a human mission to mars to be completed within his presidency.. with that being said, the watchtower teaches that what started on earth ends on earth, in other words, the fall of adam and eve would end with the passing of the 1,000 year millennial reign when christ destroys all his enemies, rebellious "perfect" humans, and the devil and his demons who are let out the abyss for a short while.
he then hands the kingdom back to his father.
an elder in my old congregation once told us during a public talk that he was an ardent astronomer but then referenced the scripture where it says, "the earth he has given to the sons of men" (psalms 115:16).
respectful_observer,
If Satan and his demons were cast down (and restricted) to the earthly realm in 1914, does that mean if humans started a colony on Mars that Satan and his demons would be unable to influence them?
Actually, the way the Watchtower explains it is that the 'vicinity' of the Earth refers to the whole universe as opposed to heaven which is outside our universe.
